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Starting: Wed Oct 1 02:53:53 BST 2003
Ending: Fri Oct 31 20:54:22 GMT 2003
Messages: 383

• [tig] Digital Intermediate Films database   Dave Cole
  • [tig] Digital Intermediate Films database   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] Vertical banding in HD   Marc Wielage
• [tig] RE: DI Database   Dave Cole
  • [tig] RE: DI Database   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] Vertical banding in HD   Redmond Ian
• [tig] Voo Doo news   Dave Corbitt
  • [tig] Voo Doo news   Richard Torpey
  • [tig] Voo Doo news   Jeff Kreines
  • [tig] Voo Doo news   Marc Wielage
    • [tig] Voodoo news   Adrian Thomas
• [tig] twiki-tig passwords   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] Hd Legal Type   Ken Rypkema
• [tig] FW: HDCAM sr   Jeff Booth
• [tig] FW: HDCAM sr   Jamie Tosi
  • [tig] FW: HDCAM sr   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] FW: HDCAM sr   Jamie Tosi
  • [tig] FW: HDCAM sr   Rob Lingelbach
    • [tig] FW: HDCAM sr   Sam Holtz
      • [tig] FW: HDCAM sr   Rob Lingelbach
  • [tig] FW: HDCAM sr   Richard Torpey
    • [tig] FW: HDCAM sr   Geoff Boyle
• [tig] FW: HDCAM sr   DCFWTX at aol.com
• [tig] HDCAM sr   Jamie Tosi
  • [tig] HDCAM sr   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] Interesting way to market replacement Telecine CRTs   Rich Torpey
• [tig] HDCAM sr   Bill Topazio
  • [tig] HDCAM sr   Rob Lingelbach
• FW: [tig] HDCAM sr   Vandenberghe J.D.
• [tig] How was "Thirteen" finished?   tfg1 at mindspring.com
• [tig] Interesting way to market replacement Telecine CRTs   Richard Torpey
• [tig] FW: HDCAM sr   digital.praxis at virgin.net
  • [tig] FW: HDCAM sr   Rob Lingelbach
    • [tig] Data vs the image   David L. Tosh
      • [tig] Data vs the image   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] HDCAM sr   Bill Topazio
• [tig] sony hd and beyond   Greg Dildine
• [tig] used spirits   Greg Dildine
• [tig] How was "Thirteen" finished?   mike tosti
• [tig] How was "Thirteen" finished?   Polarextrm at aol.com
• [tig] DI Database   Telecine
• [tig] Neg management system question   Craig Leffel
  • [tig] Neg management system question   Chris Swinbanks
• [tig] 2B or VPR3   Glenn Gundlach
  • [tig] 2B or VPR3   Clark Bierbaum
• [tig] 2B or VPR3   Bill Topazio
• [tig] 2B or VPR3   Wylie Sammy F Civ 88 ABW/LCMPS/MPPL
• [tig] 2B or VPR3   DCFWTX at aol.com
• [tig] 2B or VPR3   Wylie Sammy F Civ 88 ABW/LCMPS/MPPL
• [tig] MKIII Cell box parts   lunarfilms
• [tig] Tig-announce digest, Vol 1 #117 - 1 msg   tig-announce-request at tig.colorist.org
• [tig] VPR-3   Glenn Gundlach
  • [tig] VPR-3   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] VPR-2's, 3's, and quads...   RM23J8G at aol.com
  • [tig] VPR-2's, 3's, and quads...   Robert Lund
• [tig] top search strings   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] used spirits   Schneider Michael
• [tig] top search strings   Hans Lehmann
  • [tig] top search strings   McMahon
• [tig] top search strings   Bill Topazio
  • [tig] top search strings   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] NAB Fun Night 2004 (theme)   Rob Lingelbach
  • [tig] NAB Fun Night 2004 (theme)   Martin Euredjian
  • [tig] Re: NAB Fun Night 2004 (theme)   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] NAB Fun Night 2004 (theme)   Bill Topazio
  • [tig] NAB Fun Night 2004 (theme)   Clark Bierbaum
    • [tig] NAB Fun Night 2004 (theme)   Christopher Noellert
• [tig] NAB Fun Night 2004 (theme)   Jeff Booth
• [tig] Moderndrunkard   Ken Robinson
  • [tig] Moderndrunkard   Dick Hobbs
    • [tig] Moderndrunkard   Rob Lingelbach
      • [tig] Moderndrunkard   Dick Hobbs
• [tig] Ultra 16mm a viable format?   tfg1 at mindspring.com
  • [tig] Ultra 16mm a viable format?   David L. Tosh
    • [tig] Ultra 16mm a viable format?   Bob Festa
      • [tig] Ultra 16mm a viable format?   tfg1 at mindspring.com
      • [tig] Ultra 16mm a viable format?   David L. Tosh
      • [tig] Ultra 16mm a viable format?   Dave Corbitt
  • [tig] Ultra 16mm a viable format?   Phillip Wacker-Hoeflin
    • [tig] Ultra 16mm a viable format?   tfg1 at mindspring.com
• [tig] Ultra 16mm a viable format?   Craig Leffel
  • [tig] Ultra 16mm a viable format?   Clark Bierbaum
  • [tig] Ultra 16mm a viable format?   Marc Wielage
• [tig] CineCanvas subtitling for TI's DLP projector   K. Kishino
• [tig] Ultra 16mm a viable format?   Geoff Boyle
  • [tig] Ultra 16mm a viable format?   tfg1 at mindspring.com
    • [tig] Ultra 16mm a viable format?   Rob Lingelbach
      • [tig] Ultra 16mm a viable format?   tfg1 at mindspring.com
      • [tig] Ultra 16mm a viable format?   lunarfilms
    • [tig] Ultra 16mm a viable format?   Graham Collett
      • [tig] Ultra 16mm a viable format?   Sam Holtz
      • [tig] Framing   Jeff Booth
      • [tig] Framing   Geoff Boyle
• [tig] London look-around   Andreas Widerøe Andersen
  • [tig] London look-around   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] Re: Framing Was: Ultra 16mm a viable format?   Craig Leffel
• [tig] Ultra 16mm a viable format?   tfg1 at mindspring.com
  • [tig] Ultra 16mm a viable format?   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] Ultra 16mm a viable format?   Wylie Sammy F Civ 88 ABW/LCMPS/MPPL
• [tig] Graeme Parcher is away from the office.   Graeme Parcher
• [tig] Question for TIG members.   Arturo de los Santos
  • [tig] Question for TIG members.   Richard Torpey
    • [tig] Question for TIG members.   Sam Holtz
      • [tig] Question for TIG members.   Richard Torpey
      • [tig] Question for TIG members.   Jeff Kreines
      • [tig] Colorist wanted, Stockholm-Sweden   Henric Larsson
• [tig] Ultra 16mm a viable format?   MitchGross at aol.com
• [tig] MMII & Framing   Ken Robinson
• [tig] America Heart & Soul   Steve Shaw
  • [tig] America Heart & Soul   Randy
• [tig] temporal resolution of eye-brain   Rob Lingelbach
  • [tig] temporal resolution of eye-brain   Martin Euredjian
    • [tig] temporal resolution of eye-brain   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] temporal resolution of eye-brain   Bill Topazio
• [tig] America Heart & Soul   Polarextrm at aol.com
  • [tig] America Heart & Soul   Clark Bierbaum
    • [tig] America Heart & Soul   Rob Lingelbach
      • [tig] America Heart & Soul   Marc Wielage
      • [tig] America Heart & Soul   Jeff Kreines
      • [tig] America Heart & Soul   Rob Lingelbach
  • [tig] America Heart & Soul   Christopher Noellert
    • [tig] America Heart & Soul   Sam Holtz
  • [tig] America Heart & Soul   Lucas Wilson
• [tig] America Heart & Soul   Steve Shaw
• [tig] looking for an external TLC II or Aztec...   Chris Martin
• [tig] Maybe a bit off-topic...   jeffh
  • [tig] Maybe a bit off-topic...   Lucas Wilson
  • [tig] Maybe a bit off-topic...   Adrian Thomas
  • [tig] Maybe a bit off-topic...   Rob Lingelbach
  • [tig] Maybe a bit off-topic...   Marc Wielage
    • [tig] Maybe a bit off-topic...   Robert Lovejoy
      • [tig] Maybe a bit off-topic...   Jeff Kreines
      • [tig] Maybe a bit off-topic...   Rob Lingelbach
      • [tig] Maybe a bit off-topic...   Dave Corbitt
      • [tig] Maybe a bit off-topic...   Rob Lingelbach
      • [tig] Maybe a bit off-topic...   Adrian Thomas
      • [tig] Maybe a bit off-topic...   Dave Corbitt
      • [tig] Maybe a bit off-topic...   Marc Wielage
      • [tig] Maybe a bit off-topic...   Hugh Waters
      • [tig] Maybe a bit off-topic...   Richard Torpey
  • [tig] Maybe a bit off-topic...   alexsensei
    • [tig] Maybe a bit off-topic...   Robert Lovejoy
    • [tig] Maybe a bit off-topic...   Rob Lingelbach
  • [tig] Maybe a bit off-topic...   James DeLuca
• [tig] Maybe a bit off-topic...   Jeff Booth
• [tig] America Heart & Soul   Polarextrm at aol.com
  • [tig] America Heart & Soul   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] Maybe a bit off-topic...   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] America Heart & Soul   redw at sedona.net
  • [tig] America Heart & Soul   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] America Heart & Soul   redw at sedona.net
• [tig] America Heart & Soul   redw at sedona.net
  • [tig] America Heart & Soul   Sam Holtz
• [tig] Maybe a bit off-topic...   Bryan Stephens
• [tig] America Heart & Soul   redw at sedona.net
  • [tig] America Heart & Soul   Michael D. Most
• [tig] Need Evertz 4015 Keycode Help/manual   Sean McKee
  • [tig] Need Evertz 4015 Keycode Help/manual   Angeles Soto
    • [tig] Need Evertz 4015 Keycode Help/manual   Sean McKee
• [tig] Need Evertz 4015 Keycode Help/manual   Harris_Leibowitz/zoetrope at ffcnotes.com
• [tig] Maybe a bit off-topic...   Glenn Gundlach
• [tig] America Heart & Soul   Mtnroach at aol.com
• [tig] America Heart & Soul   Jean-Clement Soret
• [tig] America Heart & Soul   redw at sedona.net
• [tig] America Heart & Soul   redw at sedona.net
• [tig] Maybe a bit off-topic...   Roger Mayer
• [tig] DuArt story in LA Times   Rob Lingelbach
  • [tig] DuArt story in LA Times   tfg1 at mindspring.com
  • [tig] Keykode repeatability   tfg1 at mindspring.com
    • [tig] Keykode repeatability   Rob Lingelbach
    • [tig] Keykode repeatability   David L. Tosh
• [tig] Maybe a bit off-topic...   Philip Mendelson
• [tig] Re: Rank Cintel MK 3 Boards   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] DIfDB work from Dave Tosh   Rob Lingelbach
  • [tig] DIfDB work from Dave Tosh   David L. Tosh
• [tig] DuArt   Jeff Kreines
  • [tig] DuArt   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] HP QA-100 help   Dwight Thornton
• [tig] New position in Istanbul   Kerem Kurdoglu Sinefekt
• [tig] I'm worried and angry   mhafner at imdb.com
  • [tig] I'm worried and angry   David L. Tosh
    • [tig] I'm worried and angry   Jeff Kreines
      • [tig] I'm worried and angry   Rob Lingelbach
      • [tig] I'm worried and angry   Jeff Kreines
      • [tig] I'm worried and angry   Rob Lingelbach
      • [tig] I'm worried and angry   David L. Tosh
      • [tig] I'm worried and angry   Rob Lingelbach
  • [tig] I'm worried and angry   Martin Euredjian
  • [tig] I'm worried and angry   Marc Wielage
  • [tig] I'm worried and angry   Richard Torpey
  • [tig] I'm worried and angry   David Bernstein
    • [tig] I'm worried and angry   Martin Euredjian
      • [tig] I'm worried and angry   Graham Collett
  • [tig] I'm worried and angry   Ron Martin
    • [tig] I'm worried and angry   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] I'm worried and angry   Pedro Conforti
  • [tig] I'm worried and angry   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] I'm worried and angry   Pedro Conforti
  • [tig] I'm worried and angry   David L. Tosh
    • [tig] I'm worried and angry   Jeff Kreines
      • [tig] I'm worried and angry   Rob Lingelbach
  • [tig] I'm worried and angry   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] I'm worried and angry   Pedro Conforti
• [tig] I'm worried and angry   Pedro Conforti
  • [tig] I'm worried and angry   Jeff Kreines
• [tig] I'm worried and angry   Pedro Conforti
• [tig] Wanted: Ursa   Andreas Widerøe Andersen
  • [tig] Wanted: Ursa   Martin Euredjian
  • [tig] Wanted: Ursa   Martin Euredjian
• [tig] I'm worried and angry   mhafner at imdb.com
  • [tig] I'm worried and angry   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] I'm worried and angry   Blanks Bob
• [tig] I'm worried and angry   Blanks Bob
• [tig] Recall: I'm worried and angry   Blanks Bob
• [tig] Recall: I'm worried and angry   Blanks Bob
• [tig] I'm worried and angry   Blanks Bob
• [tig] I'm worried and angry   Blanks Bob
• [tig] temporal resolution of eye-brain   Peter Swinson
  • [tig] temporal resolution of eye-brain   Rob Lingelbach
  • [tig] temporal resolution of eye-brain   Jan & Eileen
• [tig] RE: Tig digest, Vol 1 #707 - 17 msgs   Laurence
  • [tig] Music reproduction devices   Jeff Kreines
    • [tig] Music reproduction devices   Patricia Martin
      • [tig] Music reproduction devices   Robert Lund
      • [tig] Music reproduction devices   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] I'm worried and angry   Bill Topazio
  • [tig] I'm worried and angry   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] lip-sync off-topic question   Nick Johnson
  • [tig] lip-sync off-topic question   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] non political digs   Glenn Gundlach
• [tig] TWiki Success Stories   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] lip-sync off-topic question   Thomas Carlton Blake
• [tig] re: I'm worried and angry   Ken Robinson
  • [tig] re: I'm worried and angry   Rob Lingelbach
    • [tig] re: I'm worried and angry   Ken Robinson
      • [tig] re: I'm worried and angry   Rob Lingelbach
      • [tig] re: I'm worried and angry   Ken Robinson
• [tig] RE: I'm worried and angry   mhafner at imdb.com
  • [tig] RE: I'm worried and angry   Martin Euredjian
  • [tig] RE: I'm (NOT) worried (OR) angry   alexsensei
  • [tig] RE: I'm worried and angry   Guy Baker GHMC.
  • [tig] RE: I'm worried and angry   Michael D. Most
• [tig] Tig-announce digest, Vol 1 #118 - 1 msg   tig-announce-request at tig.colorist.org
• [tig] RE: I'm worried and angry   mhafner at imdb.com
  • [tig] RE: I'm worried and angry   Rob Lingelbach
  • [tig] RE: I'm worried and angry   Michael D. Most
    • [tig] RE: I'm worried and angry   Rob Lingelbach
      • [tig] RE: I'm worried and angry   Rob Lingelbach
      • [tig] RE: I'm worried and angry   Jeff Kreines
    • [tig] RE: I'm worried and angry   Steven Gladstone
      • [tig] RE: I'm worried and angry   Steven Gladstone
      • [tig] Things technical   Martin Euredjian
    • [tig] RE: I'm worried and angry   David Bernstein
  • [tig] RE: I'm worried and angry   Martin Euredjian
• [tig] Tig-announce digest, Vol 1 #119 - 1 msg   tig-announce-request at tig.colorist.org
• [tig] RE: I'm worried and angry   sklein54 at earthlink.net
  • [tig] RE: I'm worried and angry   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] 2 Rank Cintel Mk IIIs available   MercerMedia
• [tig] Re: RE: I'm (NOT) worried (OR) angry (alexsensei)   Ken Robinson
• [tig] RE: I'm worried and angry   mhafner at imdb.com
• [tig] an anonymous post.   Rob Lingelbach
  • [tig] an anonymous post.   David Bernstein
    • [tig] an anonymous post.   Rob Lingelbach
  • [tig] an anonymous post.   Rob Lingelbach
    • [tig] an anonymous post.   Rob Lingelbach
      • [tig] Client Vs. Colorist WAS: an anonymous post.   Craig Leffel
      • [tig] Client Vs. Colorist WAS: an anonymous post.   Jan & Eileen
      • [tig] Client Vs. Colorist WAS: an anonymous post.   Rob Lingelbach
      • [tig] Client Vs. Colorist WAS: an anonymous post.   Rob Lingelbach
      • [tig] an anonymous post.   Richard Torpey
      • [tig] an anonymous post.   Rob Lingelbach
      • [tig] an anonymous post.   Rob Lingelbach
      • [tig] an anonymous post.   Geoff Boyle
      • [tig] an anonymous post.   Jeff Kreines
  • [tig] an anonymous post.   Julius Friede
  • [tig] an anonymous post.   alexsensei
• [tig] RE: I'm worried and angry   Harris_Leibowitz/zoetrope at ffcnotes.com
• [tig] RE: I'm worried and angry   mhafner at imdb.com
  • [tig] RE: I'm worried and angry   Martin Euredjian
    • [tig] RE: I'm worried and angry   Guy Baker GHMC.
• [tig] Thanks to Snell & DaVinci   Richard Torpey
• [tig] RE: seabiscuit NR   Greg Dildine
  • [tig] RE: seabiscuit NR   Rob Lingelbach
  • [tig] RE: seabiscuit NR   Rob Lingelbach
  • [tig] RE: seabiscuit NR   James DeLuca
  • [tig] RE: seabiscuit NR   Jeff Kreines
    • [tig] RE: seabiscuit NR   Rob Lingelbach
    • [tig] RE: seabiscuit NR   Julius Friede
      • [tig] RE: seabiscuit NR   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] RE: seabiscuit NR   mhafner at imdb.com
  • [tig] RE: seabiscuit NR   Richard Torpey
    • [tig] RE: seabiscuit NR   mhafner at imdb.com
  • [tig] RE: seabiscuit NR   Christopher Noellert
    • a new way (was Re: [tig] RE: seabiscuit NR)   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] RE: seabiscuit NR   Don Packer
• [tig] DI FYI   Harris_Leibowitz/zoetrope at ffcnotes.com
• [tig] Digital cinema   Dick Hobbs
  • [tig] Digital cinema   Geoff Boyle
    • [tig] Digital cinema   Dick Hobbs
      • [tig] Digital cinema   Geoff Boyle
• [tig] RE: seabiscuit NR   mhafner at imdb.com
• [tig] Digital cinema   mhafner at imdb.com
  • [tig] Digital cinema   Christopher Noellert
    • [tig] Digital cinema   Jeff Kreines
      • [tig] Digital cinema   Christopher Noellert
  • [tig] Digital cinema   Dick Hobbs
    • [tig] Digital cinema   Michael Farina
      • [tig] Richard Terpilowski News for LA TIG'rs   Michael Orton
  • [tig] Digital cinema   Geoff Boyle
  • [tig] Digital cinema   Martin Euredjian
• [tig] Digital Cinema, DI, I'm Worried, Anonymous, etc, etc   Shaw Clan
• [tig] Digital cinema   mhafner at imdb.com
• [tig] Warsaw   Jedrzej Sablinski
• [tig] Digital cinema   Geoff Boyle
  • [tig] Digital cinema   Jeff Kreines
• [tig] Digital cinema   mhafner at imdb.com
  • [tig] Digital cinema   Dick Hobbs
• [tig] Digital cinema   Geoff Boyle
• [tig] America Heart & Soul   Polarextrm at aol.com
  • [tig] America Heart & Soul   Michael D. Most
• [tig] America Heart & Soul   Polarextrm at aol.com
• [tig] America Heart & Soul   Greg Dildine
  • [tig] America Heart & Soul   Michael D. Most
• [tig] America Heart & Soul   Shaw Clan
• [tig] America Heart & Soul   Polarextrm at aol.com
• [tig] 70mm Film Recording   Charlie Ellis
• [tig] Career announcement: David Tosh joins NTC   David L. Tosh
• [tig] UCLA Film and TV Archive job   David L. Tosh
• [tig] DIfDB on tig   Rob Lingelbach
  • [tig] TIG email address privacy   Martin Euredjian
    • [tig] TIG email address privacy   Rob Lingelbach
    • [tig] TIG email address privacy   Rob Lingelbach
      • [tig] TIG email address privacy   jp
      • [tig] TIG email address privacy   Rob Lingelbach
      • [tig] TIG email address privacy   David L. Tosh
      • [tig] TIG email address privacy   Rob Lingelbach
      • [tig] TIG email address privacy   Rob Lingelbach
      • [tig] TIG email address privacy   Martin Euredjian
      • [tig] TIG email address privacy   Rob Lingelbach
      • [tig] TIG email address privacy   Rob Lingelbach
      • [tig] TIG email address privacy   Rob Lingelbach
      • [tig] TIG email address privacy   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] RE: Career announcement: David Tosh joins NTC (David L. Tosh)   Thomas Carlton Blake
• [tig] grading on 007   gerlof kamerling
  • [tig] grading on 007   Marc Wielage
• [tig] Telecine transfer of Techniscope (2-perf) films.   satellite at simplyweb.net
  • [tig] Telecine transfer of Techniscope (2-perf) films.   David L. Tosh
  • [tig] Telecine transfer of Techniscope (2-perf) films.   jp
  • [tig] Telecine transfer of Techniscope (2-perf) films.   Richardson, Ian
• [tig] grading on 007   martin at filmlight.ltd.uk
• [tig] Telecine transfer of Techniscope (2-perf) films.   Polarextrm at aol.com
• [tig] test of demime for tig   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] demime test please ignore   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] Re: America Heart & Soul   mhafner at imdb.com
• [tig] Dave Tosh   Steve Shaw
• [tig] America Heart & Soul   Steve Shaw
• [tig] obscure address test   Rob Lingelbach
  • address obscured (was Re: [tig] obscure address test)   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] brightness response (ACHOO)   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] TIG email address privacy   Polarextrm at aol.com
• [tig] America Heart & Soul   Polarextrm at aol.com
• [tig] TIG email address privacy   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] Telecine transfer of Techniscope (2-perf) films   Ken Robinson
• [tig] Contact details for Stan Dickinson?   Gary Welch
• [tig] possible power outage   Rob Lingelbach
  • [tig] possible power outage   Guy Baker GHMC.
    • [tig] possible power outage   Marc Wielage
      • [tig] possible power outage   Martin Euredjian
  • [tig] possible power outage   Martin Euredjian
• [tig] brightness response (ACHOO)   Harris_Leibowitz/zoetrope at ffcnotes.com
• [tig] brightness response (ACHOO)   David L. Tosh
• [tig] SMPTE NY Meeting   Ferder, John E
• [tig] Congrats to Dave Tosh   DREEMKCHR at aol.com
• [tig] DP Roger Deakins talks DI, O Brother and today's Intolerable Cruelty   Jamie Tosi
• [tig] brightness response (ACHOO)   David Stroud
  • [tig] brightness response (ACHOO)   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] brightness response (ACHOO)   David Stroud
  • [tig] brightness response (ACHOO)   Steve Hullfish
    • [tig] brightness response (ACHOO)   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] Tig-announce digest, Vol 1 #120 - 1 msg   tig-announce-request at tig.colorist.org
• [tig] Updated DI film table on TIG TWiki   David L. Tosh
• [tig] Updated DI film table on TIG TWiki   Rob Lingelbach
• [tig] Updated DI film table on TIG TWiki   Rob Lingelbach

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